Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Springtime is here.
[00:00:02] Speaker B: Yes, it is. Complete with pine pollen.
[00:00:05] Speaker A: Yes. And cutting the grass and flowers blooming and walls flying around your door and all kind of stuff like that.
[00:00:12] Speaker B: But, you know, lots of sneezing and all those kinds of things.
[00:00:16] Speaker A: No. Wash your car entirely too.
[00:00:32] Speaker B: Well. Good to see you, my friend.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: Good to see you too, man.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:00:36] Speaker A: How's things going in the sweet spot of the upstate with weather, you know.
[00:00:42] Speaker B: Here we are.
[00:00:42] Speaker A: Have your animistamine ready.
[00:00:45] Speaker B: Yep, exactly. So how are things with your mom?
[00:00:48] Speaker A: Things are going well. We are dealing with a little bit of.
You know, they say in life as you get older, less weddings, more funerals. I'm definitely in a more funerals phase. And so we have another thing that we're worrying about, another loved one who's passed on.
So there's going to be some interesting moments because I'm gonna have to figure out what to do if we're traveling to the next place or not. And so I know one of the things we want to talk about today is, you know, how do you travel, what you've seen it and what do you. What, what. What things do you look for in that? So I feel like I have a story to tell there.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: Anxious to hear. Sorry to hear you got to go to another one. But, you know, it's just one of those things. It's that, like you said, it's that time of life, and it is.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Yeah, to me, better to be seen and viewed.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: Yeah, this is true.
Yeah, this is true. Wow. So my side of things actually pretty good right now. My. My dad just called yesterday and said he's done with his physical therapy for his shoulders. He's. That's good going, I don't know, almost two months. And he said, you know, it's not a hundred percent, but it's a whole lot better than it was. And he can do. Do more around the house and pick up more weight and all those kinds of things.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Well, that's good. Yeah. Better to be physically fit and be able to handle what life throws you that way.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: Exactly. And my aunt, who has been very nervous about her cataract surgery, had her one of the first I had done this past week. And she's. She actually sounds pretty excited now that she knows that it's not that scary. It. It's pretty straightforward. She sounded really upbeat when I talked to her about it, and that was nice to hear. And she's getting her second one done, I think, in about two weeks. So she's. I think she's pretty excited. It's been a while. She's needed it done for a long time. And you know, when her husband was alive, it was hard to get that done because she couldn't leave him long enough to pull that off. So, you know, lots of stuff going on there and it's gotten me thinking about talking a little bit about how to plan for surgeries for our loved ones, especially if you're not nearby. You know, how do you deal with a lot of that? My dad told me a few weeks back, I guess, gosh, this may be been a month or two ago, about his doctor told him he really needs to have some shoulder surgery. And he's like, yeah, I really, I think I'm going to go ahead and have that done. Both of them need to be done. They really need work. He said I'm not completely capable. Obviously he went to PT to fix some of that. And it sounds like PT is going to get him through the summer. And he was hoping that maybe in the fall he could schedule some shoulder surgeries. And it got me thinking that there's a lot of complications in that. My dad lives alone.
His house is not set up for visitors staying over. He, he has two dogs. One of those is a pretty good sized dog who is young and rambunctious and if he pulls on you with a, with a damaged shoulder, it's going to make it worse. So there's a lot of logistics there. How do you deal with those kinds of things? Where a loved one's having a surgery, they're going to need to have someone stay with them for a while. They need. May need to have somebody. Somebody transport them places during that time. Dealing with pets, there's a lot of, a lot of logistics and one of the things that I wanted to talk about a little bit today is just, you know, how do you plan for that sort of stuff? And do you plan for it? My dad's not a planner. He's like a spur of the moment kind of guy. And I think it blows his mind when, when I start asking questions about, okay, well that's great, well, how are we going to do this and how are we going to do this other thing? And it just kind of seems to frustrate him and me. I got to know, I got to know what's going to happen. So how do you handle that kind of thing?
[00:04:39] Speaker A: Well, you know, it's funny because my mom dealt with some, some surgery that she had to go through mainly for cancer.
You know, it's not the actual procedure that gets you. It's the prep and the post that kind of mess with you a little bit. And so, you know, the things that you have to remember is, okay, you know, in surgery, you can't eat for 24 hours. And when you do that, you know, for a senior with a dental back seater, that could be a serious test. You have to manage that in a way that makes sense. So, you know, figuring out, well, when is the surgery, when does that start? When, you know, when. Sometimes you have to turn off medication, too. Especially if you're running things like blood thinners and stuff like that, they will tell you to do that. So don't be surprised by that. The day of when they hand you the sheet and say, okay, they should be giving you that a little bit more time. And you have to think about that kind of thing more deliberately when you have somebody trying to care for in a way that makes sense. I had a strange one that I don't know if you had, where we had records that were out of date and they were saying that she had allergies that she didn't have. And so that affected pain medication. And so, you know, the other thing I would make sure you make sure you get right is having a conversation when you're anesthesiologist to discuss what pain. Because come for, especially for people who are older, coming out of anesthesia is complicated.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:05:59] Speaker A: And so you should have a conversation, make sure that they know that they can use this payment or not use this payment, make sure it's right. I mean, those are the kind of things that, in retrospect, I wish I had done.
Because when you're in the moment of it, it's too late. It's not much you can do.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And I know we probably have listeners who have gone through this sort of thing with their loved ones, and I'd love to hear more information about how y'all dealt with that kind of thing and what, what things that popped up.
The things that really worry me are the first day or two after surgery with him, Talk to him about going to a rehab facility for a few days. And he's. Right now he's dead set against it because he had knee surgery probably 10 or 15 years ago. It's probably been that long. And he went to rehab for about a week after that. And he hated it because it was not in his house and he wasn't near all these familiar things, and it was painful and that just. But it wasn't tenable for my mom at the time to help him and take care of him by herself at the house. And it was just a thing that needed to happen. I'm going to have to convince him of that, that that may be the way that he needs to do it this time. Because again, by, you know, I live an hour away. My brother lives an hour away in the other direction. It's not set up to have visitors sleeping at the house. The pets will probably have to be boarded for a little while. This, there's lots of kinds of considerations afterwards, like you said, you know, beyond. Beyond just medications and allergies, there's just pain management and people who are skilled at that to help with it. It's. It's a good. Well, so I know good consideration to have somebody help out.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I know this kind of stuff exists where if you're in a situation where you have a loved one who, because of the surgery loses capacity and capability, that there are some options for paying for post care, like caregivers that.
[00:07:58] Speaker B: Should be considered like comfort keepers and people like that.
[00:08:02] Speaker A: One of them that I know you and I have talked about before in the past, but there are lots of people like that in the area. Especially if you're doing it for a limited time like that, you might have a better option for something like that. I've even heard of caregiving facilities who will take on somebody short term for that kind of thing. Like they're almost in a sense like a rehab hospital. But you don't have to have it as intense and you shouldn't be talking to those people too, because there could be options there. Yeah, insurance might pay for it. It might, it might even be relatively affordable for what you need to do. So I would ask some questions about that. And especially I've actually had one where I talked to my mom about facility at one time and he said, well, she wants to come for a week. We can do that. And so that's something to consider. You know, ask around, go to places and see what kind of options they have.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: I think I will do that for sure. And it's, you know, I've always thought about comfort keepers as more of a transport thing because that's where I've been dealing with. Well, my aunt has been using them for that for more, for the biggest part of her use for comfort keepers. But I forget that they are our actual CNAs. They are people who are used to dealing with people in these situations. And. Yeah, that sounds like a really good idea.
Yeah. So I think there'll be ongoing updates on the, on the podcast over the Next few months to kind of let you where things. We're let you know where things go and you know, as you were mentioning at transport, you know, how are you dealing with. With getting ready for travel with, with, with your mom to these, to these distant, distant future things.
[00:09:35] Speaker A: It's interesting because you get into these situations where you have to make last minute travel items. And so I just went out and got and looked at a couple of sites and I've been using some of these rules and I think they're really smart. So there's like five things to consider and I think they're really smart to. To consider. Here's. Here we go with the top five list things that you can do. Pros and cons. Choose senior friendly transportation. So opt out for direct flights. Do for train rides or minimum layovers or stays so people don't have to catch the next flight and things like that. Less physical strain is where you're trying to head toward. Easier to schedule Cons is that direct routes can be more expensive and certainly fewer options when you have things out there. But if you plan ahead of time, you can make up for that. So you know, look for senior friendly options.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: Plan for.
I've got a good example of the senior friendly options. And even we weren't even seniors at the time. But a few years back, gosh, it's probably been 12, 13 years ago, my wife had knee surgery. She had a fall, broke her kneecap and had some pretty extensive knee surgery. But as she was healing and as she was getting further along, we needed to take a trip together and it was cross country.
We had to connect in Chicago, one of the busiest airports in the world.
Midway. Yeah. No, actually not even Midway. O'Hare. Yeah. So we're having to move around between gates and she's walking fine. She doesn't have a crush or anything like that. But she was moving slow at the time because her knee was still healing and we were just about run over by people, even airline personnel. Like get out of the way, move. Nobody wants to deal with that kind of stress, especially when you're already in a rehab situation anyway. So yeah, definitely, if you can do a direct flight, pull it off, go for it.
[00:11:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. You know, and you may have to spend a little bit money but. But that's okay. It may be worth it. So you know, certainly if you do things ahead of time, you can get usually direct flights for maybe a better rate than some other places.
[00:11:30] Speaker B: That's true.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: Plan for frequent breaks. So you know, the. Plenty of Time to rest, plenty of time. Bathroom stops, know where you're going, keep your energy levels up and maintain and prevent fatigue is one of the pros for that. Just to be, to make sure you enjoy the sights, you know, if you're in Chicago, okay, let's take a minute, you know, let's have a Coney and you know, something like that. Make sure that you, that you, you know, you take advantage of that options now that may take longer to get where you need to go and it may limit how, what you can do in one day, but that's okay. So just think about that. Pack your medication and medical information with you so at all times. So if you run out of pills or something happens, make sure you have the ability to get those pills as you travel. Prepare for health emergencies. Make sure you reduce your stress with, with, with seniors to make sure they're taking the pills in the right way. So, you know, plan for that. That's an activity that you have to do. Actually, you and I have to do that too. We all take pills. So make sure you plan for that. That means you have to organize and plan and you might need some extra documentation at the airport for customs if you're bringing something that might go against some, you know, TSA kind of rules. So just be prepared for that. Prioritize comfort over speed at this point of our lives. The days of rushing from one point to another, that needs to stop.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: So I'm all about comfort over speed.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: At this age into that. So hotels with elevators, walk in showers, make sure you have accessibility features if you need them. Make sure they're comfortable and they can enjoy their trip. Take less, you know, less risk of injury and discomfort. I tell you, one of the things we did for the last funeral we went to, which didn't make it an enjoyable experience, but made it better to deal with as we considered things like residence inn. So instead of getting three hotel rooms or two hotel rooms where we had to check in on her and knock on the door all the time, we got a resident inn that had two bedroom suite and something in the middle, felt like a house. We go to one side and she'd go to the other and we meet in the middle. And so checking on her was just part of the deal.
[00:13:24] Speaker B: Oh, that's cool.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: It wasn't that much more expensive than two hotel rooms. And sometimes it gives you better options, like breakfast included, like fireplace, like one central tv. It looks like her house. So her stress level was down and I think it really helped her do that whole service she was comfortable, it wasn't a strained thing. We did one for a wedding a couple of years ago. She was in another room, kind of far away from us, so we'd have to go and check on her. Knock on the door, she's getting up, answering the door all the time. You know, in retrospect this was much better. So that's the other thing. And then one last item on here I'm scrolling up so I can see it all, is keep this technology simple and useful.
So we are in technology show. Yes, we emphasize technology for helping seniors. But there is a way not to use the technology and to make it simple that you should consider so easy to navigate devices, directions, you know, photos for things. I know we talked about making photo guides for people and things like that. Use health monitoring apps, stay connected in the form, but don't overdo it, don't make it confusing. And it may take a little extra time if you had to, but just consider that. And so, you know, these were really five great tips that I found that I used a lot and I think would be helpful if you start thinking about especially, you know, you don't want to think, wake up one morning, I gotta travel. You gotta do all these things, you want to plan them out. That's the whole point, I think. So we got a chart, we'll throw in our notes and people can look at it and see if it helps.
[00:14:59] Speaker B: That makes good sense all around. All around. Well, speaking of the technology piece, I know today we've been a little bit more focused on the care part of care tech and tips. And over the last few episodes we've been pretty tech heavy. Today I was wanting to give you an update on my MVNO situation. So if most of you may remember, if, if you, if you heard our last episode that we, we talked a little bit about some of the low cost cellular carriers and moving to one of these mobile virtual network operators. So I was going to get my dad moved over. That was where we were. We left AT last week and our last, our last episode and I went to his house a week or so ago and we were all set up. We were going to get him moved from, from his AT&T account over to Spectrum, one of the, one of the Verizon based MVNOs. And I gotta tell you, for no fault of AT&T's or Verizon's really or any of the MVNOs, it was an utter failure.
[00:16:02] Speaker A: Really?
[00:16:04] Speaker B: Yes. Okay. So I got hit with a curveball that I wanted to, to, to tell our Listeners about just to be on the lookout for this. Got got to his house. We got, we got everything laid out. We made sure his phone was backed up. We were getting ready to move over. I downloaded the SPECT app that you have to use to. To get going. I set up an account with them so that, you know, he would have an account for. For his new cellular service. Got everything ready, got the. Got all the prep done and was getting ready to do it and get it and tell it to. To happen. And it said, oh, yeah, you, by the way, you have to go to your previous carrier and make sure that your phone is unlocked so that it can move. All right? So, okay, yeah, nope, no worries. So I went over and opened up the AT&T account, found the place to where you're supposed to unlock the phone and it's, you know, I looked also just to make sure that that was the day that the bill had been paid. You know, auto drafted. Everything was zero balance. Everything was cool. I clicked on the button to say, unlock this phone. And it says, I'm sorry, I can't unlock this phone because there is an outstanding balance.
And I'm like, well, it says zero right here. So what's up with that? There's no balance. So I wrestled with it a few times. I tried multiple things to get it to work and nothing would happen. So unfortunately, you know what that means. You gotta call support. So I called at&t support and okay, you know, I'm an AI advocate and I really enjoy using it. I hate it in call centers. So I ended up with this trying to wrestle with this AI to tell it to give me an agent that I could explain what was going on to. Took me about, I don't know, half an hour to get through that. It seemed like it probably wasn't that long. It seemed like it finally got a hold of a agent. And we started talking and she said, well, you know, it says that there's a balance here. There's no balance. I didn't even buy this phone from you guys. I bought it used on the Internet through a company. I'll go ahead and call them out. A company called Gazelle. I said, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, we've heard of them, that they usually do good stuff. So that's really odd. So he said, let me check on a couple of things here. And it started. So can you give me the. I think it's called the IMEI number off of this phone. I said, yep. I went and hunted it down, read it back to him. He Looked it up and he said, oh. Oh? What do you mean, oh? He said, well, there is a balance on this phone. I said, but my thing says zero. Said, no, not on your account. There's a balance on this phone.
So what? He said, well, it says that, you know, this phone belonged to a previous AT&T customer. They bought it through one of our promotional deals where, you know, if you, you buy the phone on time. So they, they got the phone, they bought it on time, and then there, then what had happened was, is that this person had just let their account go delinquent. They had the phone in their hand. They just pretty much just let the. Let the account go delinquent. And there was like $600 left on this phone for them to pay back to att.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:19:02] Speaker B: So what they had done was, is they decided to don't care. I guess they didn't care about their credit rating or any of stuff, but so they abandoned that account and then they sold the phone to Gazelle. It was an AT&T locked phone and they sold it to Gazelle. So when I went a year or so ago, I went to Gazelle and I've bought multiple things for them. I thought, yeah, my Dad's got an AT&T line. Maybe I'll just go ahead and get him an ATT phone. I don't really care for it to be unlocked. It doesn't matter. So I bought an AT&T phone. Turns out that AT&T phone cannot be unlocked because AT&T says that there is still a. That there's still a balance on it. They wouldn't do anything to change it or any of that kind of stuff.
[00:19:44] Speaker A: So you had to pay for $600 to do it?
[00:19:48] Speaker B: No, I just. I said, this is a. This is an iPhone 12. It's multiple years old. I'm just going to get him another phone straight up. It's going to be all, yeah, there's no way I'm going to pay off somebody else's phone for this. But. So the recommendation here is if you buy a phone online, used at a reseller like Gazelle, make sure you get an unlocked phone when you do it. Don't. If you have an AT&T line or you have a Verizon line, try your best not to get one that is locked to that particular carrier. Go ahead and get you an unlocked one. If it's unlocked, you can move it around between carriers or you can attach it to just about any carrier out there. So I learned the hard way, don't Buy one that's locked to a particular carrier. Can you believe that?
[00:20:31] Speaker A: So you're on Verizon or you're on at&t.
[00:20:35] Speaker B: On at&t. Yep.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: Yeah. So they'd let you use it, but it wouldn't let you transfer it somewhere else.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: Exactly. And I, I even asked the. I said, listen, I've really got to speak to one of your. One of your managers on this, because this is, you know, there's got to be a way around this. And I got a hold of a nice regional manager. She talked to me for a long time, and she said, yeah, we just can't do it. I said, well, how. Why did you ever let me even.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: Put it on the network?
[00:21:00] Speaker B: Put it on the network the first time if you knew it was somebody else's? Well, well, we allow people to move around between ATT accounts. If it's an AT&T lock phone, you just can't move it off of AT&T. So that makes no sense whatsoever to me. But. Okay, I understand it so.
[00:21:16] Speaker A: Well, it makes sense to them. It's a way of locking in your people to your carrier. I get that.
[00:21:20] Speaker B: Right. Yeah.
[00:21:21] Speaker A: But. Okay, so that's good information.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: It comes right down to it. Yeah. So my next move is to just. I've got a. Actually, I have an older phone at my house here that I've just upgraded my own phone to something else. This phone's sitting here doing nothing. That's going to become his new phone for a while, and I'm going to move his account onto that. So, yeah, I was highly disappointed, but I learned something from it. Yeah. Yeah. Be on the lookout for sure.
Oh, wow. But, yeah, it was an abject failure, but it had nothing to do with the MVNOs. And as soon as I get his phone transferred over to this. This other phone, then we're going to move his carrier.
[00:22:01] Speaker A: I want to hear the happy ending. So come back. It's here.
[00:22:05] Speaker B: So we're working on the happy ending for that. We'll. We'll make it happen for sure.
All right, well, cool. So you got anything else today, Mr. Clark?
[00:22:14] Speaker A: Well, you. You mentioned, you know, things you have to do for surgery, and then some of those things might be some ride sharing that you may have to do for a senior for. For other kinds of things. So I thought it would be cool to kind of go over the top five things for when you do some ride sharing with seniors.
[00:22:28] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: So I have a list, and I figure I'd go through it with really common sense things, but again, we'll have a chart, we can throw it into the show notes and people can look at it. So absolutely.
What do you think the first one is? Safety.
[00:22:44] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Safety and driver verification. So make sure your senior is riding with someone who's trusted, verified driver. That means you want to check it. And I actually think it's a lot of sense for you to do to be the initiator on the account. So it's your Uber, it's your Lyft and you're doing it and having this. That way you can check on it. Especially if you're having senior who's not comfortable with technology, you know, take that stuff away from them. So in tips there, check the driver's license, make sure you have a photo. A lot of the ride sharing people do that. Make sure your senior knows the name of that person and get the license plate so that you know in case the worst happens, you have something to give people in case something happens. Make sure when you're doing apps like this, and I just mentioned a little bit that they're talking about app simplicity and usability. Seniors struggle with these kinds of things. And so one of the things, if you're going to have them do it on themselves, make sure you're taking advantage of all the accessibility options, larger fonts, destinations already. So they, all they have to do is say go home instead of figuring out remembering their address, you know, things like that. And you can add those things in Maps and Google Maps and other places. So they're presetting. So take some time to do that. Use voice assistance when you can because that's easier for a senior to do. You know, you can get. And I know there's some shortcuts you can build in so that you can say, you know, give me a lift home and it knows what you're talking about. And then you know, better yet, be your loved one's concierge in that way. I need a lift. Okay, you got one.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: And you do it on your own. There's going to be a nice fellow named John. He's going to pick you up here in about 30 minutes. He'll be driving a Ford F1 and it's going to be green, so be on the lookout for it.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, give them that comfort so they know it's almost like you're doing a trusted friend to come get them and you can make that happen. And frankly, I've also done this with things like when you have to order food for them and whatnot. So I put information in the, in The Uber eats or the. What's the other one, Barry? I'm thinking off the top of my head.
[00:24:45] Speaker B: Doordash or something.
[00:24:47] Speaker A: Well, you say he hand it to her. Her name is Barbara Clark. She's my mom, you know, that kind of thing. So she walks up and goes, hey, Ms. Clark, here you go. You know, she thinks she's a friend. So, you know, certainly do that with something like that. Be as personable as you can. Remember, accessibility. You know, seniors need help getting and moving through ice. Make sure the driver knows whatever special needs might be necessary for your loved one.
[00:25:12] Speaker B: So knock on the door and it.
[00:25:14] Speaker A: Takes a little walk, a little while you gotta take. Then you know they need to get out and put it into the trunk. You know, let them know that kind of thing. Off the top of your head, look for Uber Assist because there are some services that are built into that you can mention special needs in the booking. Make sure you do that. All right, that's number, number four, cost transparency. This is more akin. When they're doing it, make sure they understand this costs money and understanding the price is important so they don't haggle so much when they get out of the car. My mother wants to know how much it costs and can she get a discount? No, we already fixed that out. You know, we're handling that.
[00:25:53] Speaker B: I've got it covered. Yep.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: How you cover it and you may want to do things like tipping. So if your ride sharing allows you to do an additional tip, okay, make sure she has a couple of dollars to do that if she wants to. So just have a conversation about that works. You know, confirm fares, make sure she understands what those estimates are. Maybe there's something that happens that makes the cost a little bit more. She's not annoyed by that. So you still want to talk through that. And then the last thing is ride tracking and notifications. You want to make sure that for your own peace of mind, you know, when she got picked up and when she got dropped off.
Enabled ride sharing and trusted contacts. Make sure that the app is tracking and making you sure you know about the tip and sharing it feature. So those are the five tips. So I'll go over them real quick again. Safety, simplicity. That's ability, transparency. And then make sure you turn on your right tracking and get notifications. I think that's a great, pretty cool.
[00:26:51] Speaker B: Great, great, great set of recommendations. And I would even go a little bit further than that and say if you're, if you're going to try to, to say, maybe have an Uber sent to pick up your mom or to pick up your, your loved one and take them somewhere and then later on have an Uber come back and pick them up and then take them back home. I think if, if you can pull this off, I think it would be good is to, to do. To run your own prototype experiment for that.
[00:27:17] Speaker A: Yes. You know, so you know what it's like. I think that's a really cool idea.
[00:27:21] Speaker B: So you know exactly what that's like. Or even be able, if you're at your at with them at some point in time, you know, have it. Run it. Run a test where you do all the same things and then have that person show up and ask for her. You just happen to be going with her as a, as a, as a silent passenger, but walk through the whole process with them one time so they understand, hey, this is not that scary. There's a. There's some guy going to pick me up, they're going to take me where I need to go, they're going to drop me off, it's all good. And a little bit later somebody else is going to pick me up again, take me home. It, you know, it really comes down to that and just kind of, if you can walk through it one time like that, make it a little bit more comfortable for them and for you. So you know that what kind of problems they might run into, I think.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: And I experiment, pay attention to the return trip. The pickup is way easier. So you want to make sure. So have a conversation. She's going to an event, it's going to be over in two hours. You can say things like, okay, Mom, I'm going to call the service for you at this time. Make sure that other people around her know that this is where the service is going to run. So you may have to do a little bit of work on the return trip to pull off everything, because that's where your difficulty is going to be. She's at home, they're coming to her, but she's at event and the event's over in 30 minutes and she's still waiting for the ride. That's where your problem fail goes into. Exactly.
Even so that maybe what you want to do is find out who else is going to that trip and arrange for them to take her back. So it's not as an Uber there, but it's a personal ride back. Consider those things too.
[00:28:56] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a lot to take in. And you know, there may be products out there for this that I don't know about yet because I haven't done a lot of research into it, but I think if someone could take Uber or Lyft and specifically put a layer on top that is just for dealing with the seniors or people who are at reduced capacity and making that whole situation simple, that that would be a godsend for a lot of people. Don't you think?
[00:29:20] Speaker A: Yeah. And you know, you know what, you don't have to always use Uber and Lyft. A good old fashioned taxi or limousine service can do a lot of this too. And you ought to give.
[00:29:29] Speaker B: They really can. That's, that's a good point. Yep.
[00:29:32] Speaker A: Call them up, tell them what's going on, range, time, prepay it if you have to. You can do all of that.
[00:29:38] Speaker B: So that especially in a lot of smaller areas there, you know, there's specific, specific transport services that, you know, that's what they do all day long is they pick up folks who can't get around on their own. Stuff to think about. All right, well, I think we're getting kind of close to our time today and we hope that you guys are enjoying what you're hearing and hope that you will recommend your, recommend this to your friends and to your family and like, and subscribe as we all like.
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[00:30:31] Speaker A: So I'm looking forward to the idea of throwing some new blood and new looks and new eyes on problems we might have too.
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